Thursday, January 29, 2009

Lahore Travel Guide

Its All About Lahore

Lahore (لاةور) is Pakistan's second largest city, and the capital of the north-eastern Punjab province. It is widely considered the country's cultural capital. The heart of Lahore is the Walled or Inner City, a very densely populated area of about one square kilometre. Founded in legendary times, and a cultural centre for over a thousand years, Lahore has many attractions to keep the tourist busy. The Mughal and Sikh legacy survives in the Lahore Fort, Badshahi Mosque and Gurdwara, the Mall is lined with colonial-gothic buildings from the British Raj, and the suburbs of Gulberg and Defence feature palatial mansions and trendy shopping districts.

Lahore is the second largest city in Pakistan with a population of roughly 8.5 million. The traditional capital of Punjab for a thousand years, it had been the cultural center of Northern India extending from Peshawar to New Delhi. Lahore is Pakistan's second-largest city after Karachi. The origins of Lahore are shrouded in the mists of antiquity but Lahore is undoubtedly ancient.
Today, Lahore can be best described as a city that is just so wonderful, so very fabulous, that every nook and corner of the city speaks of a certain vibrance, a certain zeal, a spirit of life, which cannot be found anywhere else in the world. Perhaps it is the maturity of the city, which manifests itself in the various parts of Lahore. It is present in the monuments, in the bazaars, in the old buildings lining the Mall, or in the vast expanses of the sports grounds in the Cantonment. But most vividly, this great Lahori spirit is visible in the people of Lahore, the Zinda dilan-e-Lahore.
Lahore is a city of culture, of history, of an unrivaled charm that sets it apart from every other city on earth. It seems that great Lahori spirit has invaded and saturated this city over the centuries, to the effect that Lahore today is not just a city, not just a place in one corner of this planet, but a whole universe in itself. There is an old saying, that in every Lahori, there is a Mughal prince. The city has known ages of cultural, intellectual, musical, literary and humanistic evolution, which has consequently led to the fermentation and over fermentation of this rich brew we call Lahore. Few cities of the world, if indeed any, can lay claim to such a wonderful past or present.


Legend has it that it was founded about 4,000 years ago by Loh, son of Rama, the hero of the Hindu epic, the Ramayana. Reminiscence of its hoary past are the remains of a subterranean temple attributed to Rama, in the northern part of the Royal Fort. Historically, it has been proved that Lahore is at least 2,000 years old. After Islam came to South Asia, it became a center of learning, and attracted some of the region's greatest mystics, writers and artists. The people of Lahore, when they want to emphasize the uniqueness of their town say “Lahore, Lahore aye” (”Lahore is Lahore”). Lahore is the city of poets, artists and the center of film industry. It has the largest number of educational institutions in the country and some of the finest gardens in the continent.Apart from being the cultural and academic center of the country, Lahore is the showcase for Mughal architecture in Pakistan. For more than 200 years, beginning from about 1524 AD, Lahore was a thriving cultural center of the great Mughal Empire. Mughal Emperors beautified Lahore, with palaces, gardens and mosques.
Hieun-tasng, the famous Chinese pilgrim has given a vivid description of Lahore which he visited in the early parts of the 7th century AD. Lying on the main trade and invasion routes to South Asia, Lahore has been ruled and plundered by a number of dynasties and hordes. Muslim rule began here when Qutub-ud-din Aibak was crowned in Lahore in 1206 and thus became the first Muslim Sultan of the subcontinent. It waxed and waned in importance during the Sultanate.
However, it touched the zenith of its glory during the Mughal rule from 1524 to 1752. The Mughals, who were famous as builders, gave Lahore some of its finest architectural monuments, many of which are extinct today.
It was Akbar’s capital for 14 years from 1584 to 1598. He built the massive Lahore Fort on the foundations of a previous fort and enclosed the city within a red brick wall boasting 12 gates. Jahangir and Shah Jahan (who was born in Lahore) extended the fort, built palaces and tombs, and laid out gardens.
Jahangir loved the city and he and his wife Noor Jahan are buried at Shahdara. Aurangzeb (1658-1707), gave Lahore its most famous monument, the Badshahi Masjid (Royal Mosque) and the Alamgiri gateway to the fort.
During the eighteenth century, as Mughal power dwindled, there were constant invasions. Lahore was a suba, a province of the Empire, governed by provincial rulers with their own court. These governors managed as best they could though for much of the time it must have been a rather thankless task to even attempt. The 1740s were years of chaos and between 1745 and 1756 there were nine changes of governors. Invasions and chaos in local government allowed bands of warring Sikhs to gain control in some areas.
Lahore ended up being ruled by a triumvirate of Sikhs of dubious character and the population of the city invited Ranjit Singh to invade. He took the city in 1799. Holding the capital gave him enough legitimacy to proclaim himself the Emperor. Descriptions of Lahore during the early 19th century refer to it as a “melancholy picture of fallen splendor.”
The British, following their invasion of Lahore in 1849, added a great many buildings in “Mughal-Gothic” style as well as bungalows and gardens. Early on, the British tended to build workaday structures in sites like the Fort, though later they did start to make an effort to preserve some ancient buildings. The Lahore Cantonment, the British residential district of wide, tree-lined streets and white bungalows set in large, shaded gardens, is the prettiest cantonment in Pakistan. Since Independence in 1947, Lahore has expanded rapidly as the capital of Pakistani Punjab.
All this makes Lahore a truly rewarding experience. The buildings, the roads, the trees and the gardens, in fact the very air of Lahore in enough to set the mind spinning in admiration.A poet has written about this phenomenon one experiences in the environs of Lahore. When the wind whistles through the tall trees, when the twilight floods the beautiful face of the Fort, when the silent canal lights up to herald the end of another chapter in history, the Ravi is absorbed in harmony, mist fills the ancient streets, and the havelis come alive with strains of classical music, the spirit of Lahore pervades even the hardiest of souls.

Guide to Lahore by Masudul Hasan (1978)
A Guide to Lahore Fort by Nazir Ahmad Chaudhry (2004)
Masterpieces of Lahore Museum by Lahore Museum (2006)
Amritsar to Lahore by Alter (2000)
Lahore by Amin (1998)
Lahore by Pran Neville (1993)
The Dancing Girls of Lahore by Luoise Brown

Get in

By plane

Allama Iqbal International Airport [1] is located about 20-30 minutes from the city centre. Taxis and shuttles are available to take passengers from the city to the airport - with unmetered taxis it is advisable to set the rate beforehand. The new proposed Lahore Mass Rapid Transit System will be linked from different parts of the city to the airport.
The airport is a major hub by Pakistan standards, but not by international standards Pakistan International Airlines [2] with daily departures to the rest of Pakistan, connecting flights into nearby hub airports Qatar, Dubai, Bangkok for onward connections to the Middle East, Europe, North America, and South-East Asia.
Other airlines operating in and out of Lahore are:
Thai Airways [3]
Emirates [4],
Gulf Air [5],
Qatar Airways [6],
Kuwait Airways [7],
Etihad Airways [8],
Shaheen Airlines [9],
Singapore Airlines [10],
Air Blue [11],
Saudi Airlines [12],
Indian Airlines [13]
...and many more

By train
The main railway station is located near the city centre. There are routes from all major Pakistani cities. The Samjhauta Express briefly ran between Lahore and Amritsar, across the border in India, but was suspended in 2002. It is scheduled to resume service in 2007.
Apart from that, trains to southern e.g., Multan, DG Khan, Karachi etc and northern parts e.g., Gujrat, Gujranwala, Jehlum, Rawalpindi, Peshawar etc. run from the main station. It also connects to the western part of Pakistan to Faisalabad and beyond.
Local Stations of Lahore are Shahdara Bagh, Badami Bagh, Moghalpura, Baghbanpura, Harbanspura, Jallo, and Wagah. There is mostly peak hour services operate within these local stations for commuters to Lahore.

By car
A modern motorway connects Lahore to Islamabad and Faisalabad. New Motorway link has been being built to connect it to Peshawar (A western border city).
Note: While Pakistani traffic is generally chaotic and highly dangerous, the motorway is very comfortable and one of the few places traffic laws are enforced. Now a days, new Traffic Police has arrived and is enforcing traffic laws on Highways too.
Taxis are possible to/from the Indian border for ~Rs 400.

By Bus
From the Indian border, bus #4 runs to the Main train station for Rs 20.
Minibuses are the cheapest way to get between the larger cities, and the only way to get to some more remote destinations. They can be uncomfortably crowded, so if possible opt for a more comfortable larger bus.
Skyways, Niazi Express and a couple others operate large, comfortable buses to Islamabad, Peshawar, Faisalabad and many other cities and towns from their own bus terminals near M2 Motorway Interchange. These services are rather affordable and convenient way of inter city travel.
Daewoo [14] has it's own terminal away from the main bus station on Ferozpur Road near Kalma Chowk. This terminal is only minutes away from famous Liberty Market, Gaddafi Stadium & other popular shopping areas. Clean, comfortable, air-conditioned coaches run regularly between Lahore to all major cities of Punjab & NWFP and many smaller cities and towns such as Islamabad, Multan, Faisalabad and Peshawar. Daewoo is bit expensive but it is only service that provide a good quality travelling experience

Get around

Generally getting around is a pretty experience, you get to see a lot more on foot, just remember to wear comfortable shoes if you are gonna be walking a distance.
Walking Due to the traffic, distances, extreme heat, and hordes of goggling locals, however, most tourists will prefer to use other means of transport.
Auto-rickshaws or 'Qingqi'(pronounced chingchi) are open rickshaws with (narrow) rear-facing seats, or with two seats facing forward and two backward. They are handy for moving around in the Inner City, since it's easier to see where you're going. Tourists used to average western road etiquette might be horrified by the chaos on the roads - but it almost seems to work. Qingqi drivers have an unbelievable sense of space, speed and angles and you may well learn to trust them (or not). Rickshaws are the cheapest and, for women, the safest individual forms of public transport. Haggle thoroughly with the driver; if you do not speak Punjabi or Urdu or are clearly a foreigner, try to get a Lahori friend to ensure you don't get ripped off. Try to find a rickshaw with a well-padded seat, otherwise you will come out bruised and aching.
Taxis are mostly unmetered and often privately operated. Most taxi drivers and, indeed, rickshaw drivers, carry mobile phones; it may be useful to take a number down if you find someone especially reliable. Do not take taxis in the Inner City, as the streets are narrow and very crowded. Either walk or take a qingqi.
Minivans are probably the most dangerous form of public transport, with very rash drivers. Women will find these especially uncomfortable, as they are very crowded. Often women must sit in an undersized cubicle or with the driver, to prevent harassment.
Buses are usually cleaner and more comfortable than minivans, and usually a have a separate seating area for women.
From the airport - When you arrive at the airport you will likely be besieged with touts offering you taxis and rooms. It's wise not to book anything through them and arrange a taxi yourself to the hotel of your choice. Some of the mid-range and most top-end hotels offer a courtesy shuttle from the airport.

The most common languages are Punjabi and Urdu. For the use of English there is a big diversity between different areas of Lahore. Education is generally high in Lahore and a great many of residents understand and speak a form of English. It is rather hard to find somebody capable of speaking proper English in old city and other surrounding areas but you won't have any such a problem in Lahore, especially if you are visiting old city, fort, food street and other surrounding areas including Mall Road, Gulberg, Defense, etc you will find it easy to communicate in English.


Wall City
The Lahore Fort is a huge mass of a structure where the Mughals built their imperial quarters, followed by the Sikhs. It is on the UNESCO World Heritage List. There is a small museum dedicated to the Sikh period of the 18th century. A friendly museum caretaker might agree to take you into the summer rooms underground. The tomb of Sikh ruler, Ranjit Singh, is also located in Lahore. Entrance fee for non-Pakistanis is Rs 200.
The Badshahi Mosque was built by the Mughal emperor Aurangzeb and was long the largest mosque in the world. Entrance is free, but you will be asked to pay about Rs 10 (Nov 2006) to the shoe keeper upon exit. Try going late at night, when there are few people there. Do not wear shorts to this or any mosque; women are advised to wear long or half-sleeved clothing, and to carry a shawl so they can cover their head. Remove shoes before entering.
The Inner City is full of little shrines and palaces, of which the most impressive are the Imperial Baths and the Asif Jah Haveli (recently restored). Try finding a guidebook detailing walks in the inner city.

Gates of Inner City

In the Mughal days, the Old City was surrounded by a 9 meter high brick wall and had a rampart running around it which served as a protection for the city. A circular road around the rampart gave access to the city through thirteen gates. Some of the imposing structures of these gates are still preserved.
The Raushnai Gate, or the "Gate of Light" is between the royal mosque and the citadels.
The Kashmiri Gate is so called because it faces the direction of Kashmir.
The Masti Gate is not the actual name but is rather twisted and pronounced instead of "Masjidi," which means a mosque.
The Khizri or the Sheranwala Gate. As already noted, the river in former times flowed by the city walls, and the ferry was near this spot. The gate was, therefore, named Khizri, after the name of Khizr Elias, the patron saint, according to the Mahomedan belief, of running waters and streams, and the discoverer of the water of immortality.
The Yakki Gate. The original name was "Zaki," which was derived from the name of a martyr saint, who, according to tradition, fell fighting against the Moghal infidels from the north, while gallantly defending his city
The Dehli Gate is so called because of its opening on to the highway from Lahore to Delhi.
The Akbari Gate was named after Mahomed Jala-ud-din Akbar, who rebuilt the town and citadel.
The Mochi Gate is the name wrongly pronounced. It was name was actually Moti meaning a pearl. It was called so after the name of Moti Ram, an officer of Akbar, who resided here at that time.
The Shah 'Almi Gate was named after Mohomed Mo'azzam Shah 'Alam Bahadur Shah (the son and successor of Aurangzeb). He was a mild and generous Emperor, who died in Lahore on the 28th February 1712.
The Lahori Gate also known as the Lohari gate has been named after the city of Lahore.
The Mori Gate is the smallest of the gateways and as its name implies, was in old times used as an outlet for the refuse and sweepings of the city.
The Bhatti Gate was named after the Bhatis, an ancient Rajput tribe who inhabited these quarters in old times.
The Taxali Gate was named after the Taxal or royal mint, that used to be in its neighborhood during the period of the Mahomedan Emperors.
The Daata Darbar is the shrine to Lahore's patron saint, Hazrat Daata Ganj Bakhsh. This vast modern structure is always filled with people praying, collecting or bestowing alms, or eating at the huge charity 'langar' or soup kitchen.
Right in front is a park with Minar-e-Pakistan or the Eiffel Tower of Pakistan. It was built on the site where in 1940 the creation of a separate state for Muslims was recognized.
Gawal mandi food street
Red light district

Mall Road
Lahore Museum (which displays the Fasting Buddha of Gandhara)
Lahore ZooLocated in the heart of the town and set in modern style is the Lahore zoo founded in 1872. It is one of the oldest Zoos in the sub continent. The material used in some of the construction even bears the marks of 1853. The Lahore zoo attracts a large crowd throughout the year. Driving along the Sharah-e-Quaid-e-Azam, just ahead of the charring cross and opposite to the WAPDA House is the main gate of the Zoo
General Post Office
University of Punjab (Old Campus)
National College of Arts of which Rudyard Kipling's father was the principal, and offers a thesis show every winter.
Kim's Gun is outside the NCA.
Punjab Provincial Assembly Building
WAPDA house building the WAPDA House building is, an example of a modern office block, with a glass dome and a roof garden.
Summit Memorium is located in the locale more commonly known as Charing Cross. Few know the presence of a library / museum below the Charing Cross roundabout that is all about the OIC and Islamic Summit and is a treat to visit.
Shahdin Manzil
Lawrence Gardens & Library, also known as the Bagh-e-Jinnah
Toolinton market, now converted into a museum
Free Manson Hall
Lovers park
Lahore Art Gallery. The Croweaters Gallery
Al Hamra Arts council
Lahore Fortress the Fortress Stadium is an attempt to combine the architecture of a fort like Rohtas with a sports stadium. The Stadium is the site of the famous Horse and Cattle Show in March.
Other Sights
Following the canal side road to the east of the city is Jallo Park. It is a large drive-in park with drive in zoo and a man made lake. Sozo Water Park is another attraction this park. Also see Sindbad, Joy Land and Sky Land
Lahore Museumthis museum was established during the British Raj in 1864. It displays a complete cross-section of the Culture and History of the region with rare and best collection of the Buddhist art from the Gandhara Period, Islamic artifacts, Calligraphy, Old Manuscripts, Arms, Costumes and Jewelry
Shakir ali Museum ,this museum was actually Shakir's House at 93, Tipu Block, New Garder Town, Lahore, which he made for himself. After his death it was bought by Idara-I-Saqafat-e-Pakistan and formally turned into a museum on April 3rd, 1976. The idea behind it was not only to preserve the great artist's paintings and other masterpieces under one roof but also to open this combination of modern and traditional archietecture to the public.
Fakir Khana Museum a very large and interesting private Museum known as Faqirkhana lies inside the Bhatti Gate and is worth visiting. The museum houses a variety of old paintings, including some by great masters, original manuscripts in different languages and artifacts from South East Asia and the Indo-Pak sub-continent.
Mughal Museum situated at Poonch house, Multan Road, Lahore it was established in 1950. This is an Industrial and commercial Museum, which is meant to depict country's economic resources both in the form of raw products and worked objects. Its collection is arranged in one gallery and one large hall of the building. The main hall displays a range of variety of material such as well plated musical instruments, table lamps of camel skin from Multan and Bhawalpur, cotton, silken-woolen and embroidered textiles from all important cites of Pakistan.
Shalimar Gardens
Wagah Border
National Science Museum at UET G.T. Road Lahore.
Jallo Park The Park is 28 kms from Lahore. It can be visited by road and by rail. A rail car leaves for Jallo Railway Station every half hour. Spread over an area of 450 acres it has expanses of lawns, a forest research center, a children's park, zoo, a small museum and a gift shop.
Bagh-e-Jinnah was formerly known as Lawrence Gardens. It is opposite to Lahore Chamber of Commerce and Industry. It is amongst the biggest gardens of Lahore.
Race Course Park Situated on Jail Road, Race Course Park deservedly attracts not only town dwellers but visitors as well.
Gulshan-e-Iqbal Park Gulshan-e-Iqbal park in Allama Iqbal Town
Hiran Minar is set in peaceful environs near Lahore. Hiran means deer. It used to be favorite hunting sport of all Muslim kings, especially of Moghals. Jehangir erected this minaret to commemorate the death of his pet deer (Maans Raaj). It served a double purpose as from it top the hunters could locate the habitations of deers. It is a beautiful picnic as well as a historic spot. A high Bara Dari Ghat is constructed right in middle of a Talab. A man made big lake, boating facility is also available. A good garden lay out is surrounding the place.
Chhanga Manga is a man-made forest 68 kms from Lahore. There is a lake, and a miniature railway, which winds its way through its forest. Chhanga Manga has 12,510 acres of plantations. It is a popular picnic spot spread over 50 acres with a lake and rowboats, motorboats, children's park, swimming pool, cafeteria, canteen and rest houses
On Thursdays there is a regular Sufi gathering at the shrine of Shah Jamal. The renowned drummer Pappoo Saein and his disciples perform on the huge two-sided dhol, and devotees of the saint enter trances and dance wildly as hundreds of people watch. There is a separate seating area for women and foreigners; this is very comfortable and has the best view in the enclosure.
Catch a movie at Sozo World in fortress stadium. Fortress Stadium is also a shopping area if you are a die hard fan of inexpensive linens, clothes etc, and has the only Joyland (amusement park) within the city as well as Sindbad Amusement center. Another amusement park is a part of Sozo Water Park.
Cricket - Pakistanis, like their Indian neighbours, love cricket passionately. The Gadaffi Stadium in Lahore often hosts international matches and is relatively comfortable. If you're brave enough try some of the colorful and appetizing snacks brought into the stands by a myriad of sellers of all ages.
You can always shop in the old "anarkali" bazaar or the newer "liberty market". Both of these places are famous for women's clothes and accessories.
You can also head for the museum on lower mall road.
Lahore has long been a bastion for sport. An excursion to a Polo game would be a memorable experience. Pakistan is one of only 8 nations to play Polo professionally, and fields some 26 professional clubs. Lahore's most famous club is Lahore Polo Club, where emperors, kings and other notables have been playing for centuries. Foreign teams often play here in friendly games, and facilities are first rate.
Lahore abounds with history. From the Muslim emperors, the pre Islamic empires that preceded them, to the British, the Sikh empire to the modern day. A walk around the old city is like living "The History Channel".
If you are looking for the nightlife, it is very discreet as Lahore has no nightclubs, but you can go out and party as lahori people know how to party, however for that you have to know the right people as the parties are invite only.
If you are big on "pot" there is one place you cannot miss, that is "pappu sayin" it is a haven for dopers, you go there you can get free high quality pakistani and Afghani Hash aka "garda or charas". Pappu sayin is located in Shah Jamal at a darbar and you will find many modern rich kids hanging out there on thursday nights. It is one great experience as Pappu Sayin plays the drum all night, a rhythm you will never forget.
Go Carting in Sozo, near Jallo Park
No visit is complete without going to Liberty and visiting Joyland! one of Pakistan's BEST amusement parks, just buy a wrist band and you will have access to every ride in the park.
Watch the daily ceremony at Wagha Border with India
Take a water bottle with you when going to bazaars for some shopping.
Go to bazaars and look around, you can buy amazing jewelery, crockery, souvenirs and of course clothes! One baazar that is not to be missed is Anarkali and Ichra. Just hop onto a rizksaw or a taxi and ask to be taken there, you'll be there in a snap!
Make a video journal of your stay, you will see a lot more through your video then anything else. Remember to take a camera as well ( try to buy a rechargeable kind, so you can charge it as the battery's criteria might be different from foreign standards, or your camera's standards).
Go shopping at New Auriga Shopping Mall, Main Boulevard Gulberg
Another great place for shopping is at Sadiq Trade center.
Buy the Rs.50 posters that you can get on the footpath near Punjab university,it would cost around 700-1000 in bigger shops!
Wear extremely revealing clothes, try to dress modestly
Eat street food indiscriminately. Though no visit to Lahore is considered complete without street food, be careful and avoid meat. Other items such as Samosas, Gol Gappas are relatively safe and a must try. Food that is sizzling hot is also considered safe as the bacteria are likely to have been killed by the heat during the cooking process.
The chief schools of Lahore include the English-style public school Aitchison College (for boys), Crescent Model School, Divisional Public School Model Town, Central Model School Lower Mall, Lahore Grammar School, Lahore American School, International School of Choueifat, the Convent of Jesus and Mary (for girls),Lahore College of Arts and Sciences and Beacon house.
Lahore is the centre of Pakistani higher education. The University of the Punjab is the oldest such institution in the subcontinent, and the library has a fine, if rather faded, collection dating back to Raj times.
University of the Punjab, oldest and most famous institution of higher education in the country. Three Nobel prize winners are associated with this university.
The Government College also dates to the Raj, and is ensconced in a magnificent campus of that era. Other old institutions include Kinnaird College and Lahore College (both for women only).
University of Engineering & Technology [15], G.T Road Lahore. This is one of the oldest institutes of Pakistan which has been functioning since 1921. It is the largest engineering university in the country and students from all over Pakistan come here to study the many courses offered by the university at graduate & post graduate levels. A lot of foreign students from Iran, Saudi Arabia, The Middle East, Somalia, Bosnia, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and many other countries are found in good numbers here. The National Museum of Science and the National Library of Sciences are also a part of the university.
King Edward Medical College is one of the two most prestigious medical schools in the country. Other medical schools include Fatima Jinnah, and Allama Iqbal.
The National College of Arts teaches graphic design, fine arts (including the only programme in miniature painting), architecture and music.
The Lahore University of Management Sciences is the most prestigious university in the country. At present it offers courses in economics, computer sciences, social science and law.
The Lahore School of Economics offers an intense and very well-reputed business and economics programme in its cramped city quarters and its vast campus far outside the city.
The Beaconhouse National University is a new institution and offers a liberal arts education.
University College Lahore, located in outskirts of the city near the Motorway on Raiwind Road provides University of London External Programme degrees in a wide range of subjects including Economics, Management, Finance, Accounting and Law.
Feroz Sons book shop is the oldest book shop of Lahore.
The traditional bazaars of the inner city are roughly divided according to ware. Bargaining is de rigueur.
The Anarkali bazaar, named after a courtesan who was buried alive for loving a prince, is one of the chief shopping areas.Anarkali Bazaar is a treasure-trove, selling virtually everything from handicraft to transistor radio, tin sauce pan to refrigerator, a maze of lanes and alleys which stretch northwards from the Mall at the Central Museum end.
The bazaars in the old city are the ones people dreams about-tiny alleys, some of which will admit a rickshaw, a string of donkeys or carts- and pedestrians have to leap into doorways to give room. Some alleys are only possible single file.
Ichra Bazaar has the best quality of unstitched silk, cotton and printed material of all sorts. On the other hand Mozang Bazaar sells some particularly interesting hand-block printed cloth, tablecloth and bedspread
Trendy types congregate in the Gulberg and Defence suburbs. Liberty Market is a large circular market with hundreds of shops selling clothing, electronics, and so on. A basement shop in Liberty (tell the rickshaw driver it's near H Karim Bakhsh) has good handicrafts, and can be bargained with.
MM Alam Road is the hippest part of town, with all the most expensive designer shops, including fine furniture and clothing, both Western and Pakistani, and the best restaurants.
Raja Centre in Gulberg has a good selection of handloom 'khadi' fabric, both stitched and unstitched. Higher end khadi can be bought at the Khaadi shop in Mini Market.
Hafeez Centre is one of the continent's biggest mobile and computer markets, with inexpensive software (pirated), and hardware that can be bargained for.
Fortress Stadium has a huge variety of very inexpensive DVDs.
Defence Y Block Market equivalent of MM Alam Road
Ehsan chappal house has amazing shoes for ladies, also check out Stylo shoes for stylish shoes and clutches/purses
PACE, the ultimate shopping mall, you will everything, food,clothes, electronics, movies in one amazing package!
Lahoris are famed for their food and for their consumption thereof. This is reflected in the array of restaurants in town.
Every Lahori food item has an expert attached to it. For nihari, go to Mohammadi Nihari in Mozang, and in the winter, get a rooftop table; for chicken paratha rolls go to Karachi Silver Spoon in Liberty Market, and so on. In addition, the city of Lahore converted some of its most famous eating areas into pedestrian-only streets. The 'Food Street' of Gowal Mandi is a must-visit for dinner - you'll find a street full of shops selling fine Lahori fare, and the setting, amidst traditional jharoka architecture, is lovely. If you make it to Food Street, go by auto rickshaw (30rupees) or walk to Mochi Gate and try Rasheeds kebabs or Saiyns kebabs. Mochi Gate is also home to Fazal Sweets and Rafique Sweet House.Bhaiya kabab in Model Town is foremost name in Kabab Street, where you will enjoy bar-b-que with fresh soda.
Cookoos Cafe, (across from the Badshahi Mosque). For a truly amazing Lahore experience book yourself a table here on the top-most floor. This is in a converted house in the red-light area, owned by the artist Iqbal Hussain. It is separated from the Badshahi Mosque by a single street, and the view at night is staggering. The food is all brought from the neighbouring roadside restaurants, and is pulled up using the pulley system women in the Inner City use for their daily shopping. Their tava chicken is a must try After dinner, take a walk in the starlit mosque.
Mirchi, MM Alam Road, Gulberg. Perhaps the best Lahori food in the city, and is of good hygienic quality. Try the tamatar paneer cut and the sheesh tauk.
Pepperica (run by famous Artist Rana Shujaat) is one such restaurant, which serves various dishes to suit the tastes of various types of customers. Out of the all the dishes of Pepperika, Chicken Jalferazi is the most popular and highly demanded by the customers. The venue of Pepperica is at the Smanabad, west of the city. The atmosphere is extremely with the semblance of an international touch.
Chatkhara Mini Market, (near MM Alam Road), is also hygienic, and serves snack food like samosas, chaat and dahi bhallay.
Bandu Khan Restaurant, Liberty Market, Gulberg III, 575-6108. Offers good standard Pakistani food. The mutton karahi at Rs 510 was delicious and easily serves two people while most dishes are half that price. Salads are on offer, but see the Stay Healthy section below.
Other mid-range restaurants are concentrated in Defence and Gulberg.
Salt n Pepper is a good chain, with both Pakistani and continental food.
Lahore has seen the birth of several cafes recently; the best for cakes, desserts and coffee is Masoom's on MM Alam Road, while the best sandwiches can be had at Coffee, Tea and Company nearby. In Defence Hot Fuzon is a Masoom's franchise.
Chinese food is very popular in Lahore, but be warned that it is very strongly altered to local tastes. Hsin Kuang, 9-C-K Gulberg II, 575-7200. A pagoda-like structure near Mini Market, is very popular, but the quality varies. It is renowned for its strong-flavoured 19-B soup. Dishes are typically in the Rs 200 - 300 range.
Cafe Aylanto. Has the best non-Pakistani food in town. Try the shrimp and avocado salad. You can also take your own wine to the restaurant and they'll be happy to serve you.
Zouk, MM Alam Rd, Gulberg. One of Lahore's institutions, despite the distressing decor. It serves a mix of Continental and Thai food.It is highly popular among elites.
Freddy's, on MM Alam Road, is a family-oriented restaurant which has a safe, vaguely continental menu. Freddy's offers an afternoon high tea buffet which offers a full variety foods and some drinks for approximately Rs. 500.
The Village, MM Alam Rd, Gulberg. A vast mud structure which has a popular all-you-can-eat Pakistani buffet. It's a popular joint to take visiting tourists, as it combines a variety of local foods with good hygiene, but it's not the tastiest. Instead try the Salt n Pepper Grill, owned by the same company, which has a fine ala carte menu. Try their sweet lassi.
Ziafat, Authentic Pakistani food in a buffet style, menu is not as grand as Village, but the ambiance is a little more laid-back.
Dera, Right by the Gaddafi Stadium, sitting on your maniji and gulping lassi, you'll experience a unique truck driver atmosphere here. The food is excellent, but the prices are on the higher end. Favourite among the locals are the assorted naans, chicken mugalahi and motton chomps.
Fujiyama, in the Avari Hotel. It's the only real Japanese restaurant in town, and is considered to be the most expensive.
Costa Nostra, Authentic Italian food, overseen by Pak-Italian owners. Begun as a reservation-only high-end gourmet experience with a rather well put together table d'hote,now has a basement pizzeria where you can't go wrong if the pizza you want resembles something from Rome and not Chicago.
Pizzerio Uno Chicago Grill, MM Alam Rd, Gulberg, 576-3743 was a good place for an American version of Italian, including decent pizzas unti it closed down in early 2008.
Alcohol is illegal for Pakistanis,but you can easily get alcohol from Firdos Market; beer such as Heineken, carlsberg and Murree brewry are available.If you would like to go to a nice western Bar Royal Palm would be the best bet but to go there you have to accompanied by a member. Alcohol is sold to non-Muslim foreigners at the Holiday Inn until 6pm daily. Bring your passport.
Hotels and guesthouses are the two main options in the city. Hotels are a bit more expensive but usually have western-style toilets and are cleaner.
There are only two options for most travellers, but if you feel like breaking the mould, there are some fairly awful and over-priced options near the train station, which is in an overwhelmingly busy and chaotic part of the city - not for the faint-hearted.
Regale Internet Inn, Regal Chowk, The Mall. The owner, Malik, is a former journalist and a fascinating guy. He can show you some amazing off-the-wall stuff in the city, including weekly trips to Shah Jamal on Thursday nights. It's slightly expensive for what it is, but pretty much the best option in town and worth it for the security and to meet other travellers. There are a few fakes, so make sure you make it to the real one, which is down an alley and upstairs, behind H. Karim Busch & Sons supermarket. Rs 150 dorm beds, or the 2 double rooms cost Rs 350.
Afzaal Tourism Family Guest House Address: 17a Wahdat Park, Post Office Wahdat Colony, Lahore, Pakistan Tel. 7561165 Mob. 0333 4221886 E-mail: GPS N31* 31.204' E074* 18.642' WGS 84. A guest house in a very small house. It's not signed, making it difficult to find.
Best Western in Liberty Market.
The Sunfort Hotel in Liberty Market. Free shuttle from the airport.
Kashmir Palace Hotel, 14 Empress Road, (not far from the train station), 631-6700, Posted rates are Single Rs. 3,500; Double Rs. 4,500; and Suite Rs. 5,500. Rate paid was Single Rs. 2,500 plus Rs. 605 taxes.
Ambassador Hotel
Amer Hotel in Lower Mall.
Alpine Hotel in Model Town Ext.
Address: 38-M-Block , Civic Center , Model Town Ext , Lahore , Pakistan. Landmark: Alpine Hotel,Civic Centre,Kotha Pind Stop,Saira Memorial Hospital City: Lahore
Phone: +92-42-5168402, 5168403, 5168404 Fax: +92-42-5164801
Mirage Hotel, 21 Lake Road +92 42 7238126 [16]. RATES: Master: $35 + Tax Twin: $39 + Tax
Avari Hotel, [17]. Free shuttle from the airport.
Hyatt Regency, opening Mid 2009.
Pearl Continental Hotel, [18]. Shahrah-e-Quaid-e-Azam, +92 (42) 636-0210, fax: +92 (42) 636-2760, [19]. The nicest hotel in Lahore - the new wing is recommended. Free shuttle from the airport.
Park Plaza Lahore, MM Alam Road, Gulberg. Opening April 2008.
Radisson Hotel Lahore at the Royal Palm, 52 Canal Bank Road. Adjacent to the Royal Palm Golf & Country Club, opening 2009.
The Holiday Inn. Free shuttle from the airport.
Stay safe
On the whole, visitors will find the locals very curious, very eager to help, and often eager to relieve tourists of their money, though certainly not of their lives. Even the biggest and most fearsome green-turbaned men will usually be friendly and helpful. Being friendly and smiling at people goes a long way. If you're a woman, though, it's best to be sparing with smiles lest people get too friendly, though this is mostly in areas like Bazaars, not the actual city.
It's wise to have a dupatta, which is a scarf worn over your shoulders and which can be drawn to cover your head if you enter a mosque.
Avoid traveling at night, especially alone, But of course this is only the case in dark areas, but most of Lahore is lit up all night long , hence it has a big and booming nightlife, so you can go hangout with friends whenever and not worry about NOT being safe.
Usually a very peaceful city, demonstrations aren't uncommon, and these should be avoided at all cost. The Prophet Muhammad cartoon protests in early 2006 quickly got out of hand and several businesses were torched along with scores of cars. Foreigners should try to remain at their hotels until the dust settles, especially if what they're protesting has anything to do with the West.
Beware of pickpockets when you are in crowded areas like Liberty market, the airport, bus stands, the railway station, Anarkali, Ichra shopping centre, or Mall road. There are also con-men looking out for foreigners. Beware of fake policemen or men claiming to belong to the intelligence agencies, even if they show you a business card. See also Common scams.
In an emergency you can call police help line 15.
Stay healthy
Lahore abounds with excellent street food, but unless you've been on the road for some time (and even then) it's wise to exercise some caution. Look for busier street stalls, especially those in Gowal Mandi (food street), and stick to food that's hot and has just been cooked. Salads can also cause problems - if you must, one of the fancier restaurants in Gulberg is probably a safer bet than eating a salad at a dhaba or street stall.
Bottled water is highly recommended. Some budget places offer free filtered water, but even that is suspect in Lahore.
Medical care is excellent for those who can afford it. Don't go to a public hospital if you can avoid it. The Fatima Memorial Hospital is usually a fair bet, with decent rates, good hygiene, and good care.

Get out
The Shalimar Gardens & Lahore Fort are on the UNESCO World Heritage List.
Changa Manga - A human-made plantation, which is worth-visiting for all wildlife and nature lovers
Across the Ravi is the town of Shahdara, where the tomb of the emperor Jehangir and his charismatic wife Nurjehan is located.
Near Sheikhupura, the shrine of Hiran Minar, which used to be a hunting ground for emporor Jehangir can be visited
Harappa is located about 300 km in the south west of Lahore
Visas & Permits
FedEx on the Mall is now handling visa applications, which is a major development! They charge Rs 600 for the service, have all of the forms you need, and send the application to Islamabad. They are handling at least applications for Iran and India... check with them about China, etc. Bring a couple of passport photos and the visa fees in cash.

Wednesday, January 21, 2009

10 Essential Health Tips

"He who has health has hope, and he who has hope has everything."

1. Move More

Make it a daily challenge to find ways to move your body. Climb stairs if given a choice between that and escalators or elevators. Walk your dog; chase your kids; toss balls with friends, mow the lawn. Anything that moves your limbs is not only a fitness tool, it's a stress buster. Think 'move' in small increments of time. It doesn't have to be an hour in the gym or a 45-minute aerobic dance class or tai chi or kickboxing. But that's great when you're up to it. Meanwhile, move more. Thought for the day: Cha, Cha, Cha…. Then do it!

2. Cut Fat

Avoid the obvious such as fried foods, burgers and other fatty meats (i.e. pork, bacon, ham, salami, ribs and sausage). Dairy products such as cheese, cottage cheese, milk and cream should be eaten in low fat versions. Nuts and sandwich meats, mayonnaise, margarine, butter and sauces should be eaten in limited amounts. Most are available in lower fat versions such as substitute butter, fat free cheeses and mayonnaise. Thought for the day: Lean, mean, fat-burning machine…. Then be one!

3. Quit Smoking

The jury is definitely in on this verdict. Ever since 1960 when the Surgeon General announced that smoking was harmful to your health, Americans have been reducing their use of tobacco products that kill. Just recently, we've seen a surge in smoking in adolescents and teens. Could it be the Hollywood influence? It seems the stars in every movie of late smoke cigarettes. Beware. Warn your children of the false romance or 'tough guy' stance of Hollywood smokers. Thought for the day: Give up just one cigarette…. the next one.

4. Reduce Stress

Easier said than done, stress busters come in many forms. Some techniques recommended by experts are to think positive thoughts. Spend 30 minutes a day doing something you like. (i.e.,Soak in a hot tub; walk on the beach or in a park; read a good book; visit a friend; play with your dog; listen to soothing music; watch a funny movie. Get a massage, a facial or a haircut. Meditate. Count to ten before losing your temper or getting aggravated. Avoid difficult people when possible. Thought for the day: When seeing red, think pink clouds….then float on them.

5. Protect Yourself from Pollution

If you can't live in a smog-free environment, at least avoid smoke-filled rooms, high traffic areas, breathing in highway fumes and exercising near busy thoroughfares. Exercise outside when the smog rating is low. Exercise indoors in air conditioning when air quality is good. Plant lots of shrubbery in your yard. It's a good pollution and dirt from the street deterrent. Thought for the day: 'Smoke gets in your eyes'…and your mouth, and your nose and your lungs as do pollutants….hum the tune daily.

6. Wear Your Seat Belt

Statistics show that seat belts add to longevity and help alleviate potential injuries in car crashes. Thought for the day: Buckle down and buckle up.

7. Floss Your Teeth

Recent studies make a direct connection between longevity and teeth flossing. Nobody knows exactly why. Perhaps it's because people who floss tend to be more health conscious than people who don't? Thought for the day: Floss and be your body's boss.

9. Keep a Positive Mental Outlook

There's a definitive connection between living well and healthfully and having a cheerful outlook on life. Thought for the day: You can't be unhappy when you're smiling or singing.

10. Choose Your Parents Well

The link between genetics and health is a powerful one. But just because one or both of your parents died young in ill health doesn't mean you cannot counteract the genetic pool handed you. Thought for the day: Follow these basic tips for healthy living and you can better control your own destiny.

Sunday, January 18, 2009


This is discussion at wikipedia about Jadoons ( and i want to share it with you just for knowldge and want to tell you a point that some pepoles thinking and jeloiusy with you JADOONS
In history section of wikipedia the author wrote

The Jadoons were freedom fighters and they showed bravery against their rivals

Now at disscussion our friend :):):) a Mughal women have objection on this sentence her name is Sughra Ahmad Mughal .she wrote

Jadoons/Gaduns are not brave people at all. They were the HAMSAYAS of stronger tribes like Usufzais etc. As Hamsays; they were only the tennants, peasants and menial service performers. Jadoons of Dhamtor ran away from the battlefield in 1848 when ABBOTT was fighting the Sikhs in Pakhli, Hazara. Generally, Jadoons are not very literate either: In Abbottabad, for example, they call themselves Pathans with pride which is a deragatory term indeed by Hindi corruption; meaning a 'thug'. No real Pakhtoons or Afghanis like to be called Pathan. They want to be called Afghani or Pakhtoon. Read a classic book The 'Pathans'by Sir Olaf Caroe and improve your knowledge of history. The British retained the word 'Pathan' from Hindoos only. Also, Jadoons got lands from their Lords/protectors in return for their services to their Lords; the stronger tribes. I have posted an article on web recently, on Pathans Genealogy, Blood-Feud and Hamsayas etc. That will help in detail.
The term Hamsaya as defined: weaker, poorer and dependent and that is what the Jadoons were.

The fact that you call them "Jaduns/Gaduns" proves that you don't know a thing about them. In fact it was 200 Peshawaris that ran from the Salhad Pass and deserted Abbott. IF YOU had read Major Abbott's diaries you would have found out that he does not mention Jadoons by name AT ALL. In fact in all of his dealings with the tribes of Hazara, he very rarely met Jadoons. Another important point is that the Jadoons were AGAINST the BRITISH at that time. They were on the side of Ahmed Shah Durrani who was against the Brtitish and he had a peace treaty with the Sikhs - another reason why the British disliked the Jadoons.
Try to be critical when you read books, and don't just rely on one book. Olaf Caroe writes highly of Pukhtoons who served the British -just like the Russians would write well of tribes who helped them against the Mujaheddin, but not of the Mujahideen who fought against them. Likewise with the Taleban - enough said.
If the Jadoons are what you say, they would not have conquered Hazara and taken all the best lands. I have many firends who are Jadoons from Hazara, and they are more Pukhtoon and follow Pukhtoonwali more rigidly than the Yousafzai and other tribes.
Infact Jadoon hospitality and bravery is proverbial. One saying goes, "If you want to show friendship/hospitality show it like a Jadoon, and if you want to show enmity/be an enemy, then show it like the Jadoons."

First of all let me assure you that I did not mean to offend any one. I have very respectable friends among pathans and I respect all my friends equally regardless of class and clan.
I had given references to the discussion on jaduns/gaduns. I believe that the points raised therein are known, at large, to the knowledgeable indeed. I also believe that without digging deep-down into the subject matter and coming to some inconvincing conclusions is an act of mere & sheer ignorance.
Note that I am not ‘rigid’. Infact I hate to be rigid. I am very dynamic and open to acceptance as I go by fashion. I would appreciate very much if you could support your statement “Jadoons conquered Hazara” by some authenticity e.g. references of books, journals written by people of knowledge.
Mind that I do not go by perceptions either. Here is another reference:
James W. Spain: The Pathan Borderland
“jaduns occupy areas around Haripur, Mansehra, and Abbottabad and had migrated from West of Indus to the present home in the seventeenth century.”

I find it very difficult to weigh a “migrant” and a "conqueror” on the same balance of a scale.
Where and what is then their real and I mean real real homeland? Obviously it is not Afghanistan.
Also, know that whoever came to power throughout the history was brave; Afghans, Mughals, Sikhs, Hindus and the British; the one subdued was the weaker of the time. Muslims, Infidels, and Idolators all had their rise and dowfall.
Thanks for your patient hearing/reading

Now here is reply to her from a jadoon name Adil Khan Jadoon

Adil Khan Jadoon Reply her
I think you must be Sughra Ahmad Mughal - since you mention that you have put up a website and refer to it.
I can give you the references that you need regarding the various Jadoon conquests but there are some things that you must understand.
Bravery or the lack of it is an heterogeneous attribute in every society, race and creed. Wikipedia is NOT an internet newsgroup or chat room - Avoid making derogatory comments about a tribe or group of people for publication on this respected online encyclopedia. It only emphasizes your own ignorance.
An educated, professional person can always express themselves in a way that does not denigrate another.
You will find when you read further below, that "Hamsaya" is a totally incorrect description of the Jadoons, ADDED by Olaf Caroe. The original documents (see below) don't use this term at all.
You also have blown out of proportion the Pathan/Pukhtoon nomenclature issue. To an Afridi, Jadoon, Wazir, Yousafzai, etc. when they speak in Pukhto, they always say Pukhtoon or Pashtoon - but in Urdu/Hindko/English - it's the habit to say "Pathan" - that is how it is at the "ground level" - understood by the ordinary folk. No big issue for the Pathans - only a big thing for the non-Pathans. Even the term "Afghani" nowadays means, Uzbek, Tajik, Turkomen, Hazara etc i.e. inhabitants of Afghanistan.
The two books you quoted have mistakes: James Spain's book has numerous mistakes on the other Pathan tribes as well (such as on the Mohmands for instance) - but that is expected - he is not an Anthropologist. If you really want to write about Pathans use references from established Anthropologists like Prof. Akbar S. Ahmed. Olaf Caroe's book also has mistakes - like the one regarding the Jadoons not helping Abbott, when in fact it was 200 Peshawaries (mentioned in his personal diaries held at the British India Office Library in London) - also if you look on his map of Pathan tribe locations, he includes the Mishwanis - who actually acknowledge they are non-Pathans - in fact the Mishwanis of Hazara say they are Syeds - and in Afghanistan, they are recognized as "Arabs". Another is his conclusions that the Jadoon's were Hamsayas - if you look at the original papers that mention these (SEE BELOW) NO WHERE is this mentioned. It is a TOTALLY INCORRECT ASSUMPTION made by Olaf Caroe.
Here are references to the Jadoon's character, and the fact they conquered those parts of Hazara where they now reside as opposed to "passive migration" (written by non-Jadoons):
Reference: Notes on Afghanistan and part of Baluchistan: geographical, ethnographical, and historical. Extracted from the writings of Afghán and Tajzík historians, geographers, and genealogists; the histories of the Ghúris, the Turk sovereigns of the Dilhí Kingdom, the mughal sovereigns of the house of Tímúr, and other Muhammadan chronicles; and from personal observations.
By Major H.G.Raverty , Bombay Native Infantry (retired). Published London, 1880.
Author of a "Grammer" and "Dictionary" of the Pus'hto or Afghan Language; "The Gulshan I-Roh, or Selections, Prose, and Poetical, in the Afghan Language;" "The Poetry of the Afghans, from the Sixteenth Century to the Nineteenth Century;" "The Fables of Aesop Al-Hakim in the Afghan Language;" "Translation of the Tabakát-i-Násirí, from the Persian of Minhá-i-Saráj;" "The Pus'hto Manual," etc etc.
"The descent of the Jzadún Afghans, called Gadúns by the tribes about Peshawar, who change the original letter "Jz" into "g", is well known to those acquainted with the genealogy of the Pus'htánah or Afghán nation. "They are descended from Jzadún, son of Parnaey , and brother of Kakar, the two latter being sons of Dánaey, son of Ghurghusht, son of Kais-i-'Abd-ur-Rashíd, entitled "the Patan." As has already been stated (at page 9) the descendants of Parnaey who were very numerous, are said to have been ousted from their lands in Sánga'h Mandáhí, in Síwístan, became dispersed, and moved northwards at a comparatively early date. It is also clear that they became greatly scattered, and that but few continued to dwell in their early seats, a vast number having migrated into India, where many are still to be found, in the southern part of the peninsula. But we need not go quite so far south to find a number of them. Besides the Jzadún Parnís on the west bank of the Indus, there are no less than six or seven thousand Parní families at this present time still located in what we call the "Hazárah District," peopling some eighteen or twenty villages. Their chief town was Najíb-ullah Garh, but great changes have taken place in these parts, now included in the Hazárah District, since the annexation of the Panj-áb, in 1849. The Safi Afghans are descended from another of Parnaey's sons, who bore the former name, and Sáfaey was therefore a brother of the progenitors of the Jzadúns.
"The Jzadúns appear to have been located near the southern slopes of the Spín Ghar range, west of Irí-ab, about the time the Khas'hís, (MY NOTE: these give rise to Khas'hís Khel or Khakhay Khel as it is written in some accounts because the Pakhto "Kheen" is the Pashto "Sheen" and is the clan from which the Yusafzai descend from), having been obliged to vacate their old seats through the hostility of the Ghwarís, (MY NOTE: written in other accounts as Ghwariah Khel, and is the clan from which the Khalils, Mohmands, Daudzais and Chamkannis descend from. Both Khas'hís and Ghwarís were brothers), moved northwards towards Kábul; and, while the Khas'hís were dwelling within the limits of the Kábul province, on the northern side of the range of Spín Ghar, the Muhammadzís joined the Yúsufzí and Mandar tribes of that sept, and together with the Jzadúns continued with them as an associated and allied tribe during their subsequent vicissitudes.
"When these tribes made a distribution of the conquered territories after the defeat of the Dilazaks near Katlang (see page 224), and they had been driven out of the Sama'h, as will be presently mentioned, the Jzadúns took the lands in the eastern part of the Sama'h, near the Abáe-Sín, and there they still dwell. During the course of some four centuries, since the period in question, considerable changes have taken place in these parts, but not so many as might have been expected with reference to the Afghan tribes of this locality, but the Jzadúns have, since that period, pushed across the Abáe-Sín, and hold lands on the east, in Kohistán of Dharam-taur, and are said to number near upon ten thousand families. They will be subsequently referred to in the account of that district or territory
"The Jzadúns are divided into three sub-tribes, which again contain minor sections which need not be enumerated here."
(MY NOTE:The name "Parnaey" is also written in some accounts as "Panris" or "Pannis").
Here is another reference from: The People of India: A series of photographic illustrations of the Races and Tribes of Hindustan. Edited by J.Forbes and Sir John William Kaye, vol. 5, London, Indian Museum 1872.
"The Jadoons are not British subjects, though they inhabit a portion of the district called Hazara. They inhabit a portion of the frontier below, that is south of the Hussanzye tribe, lying on the right bank of the Indus, and opposite to the British town of Torbeyla. Westward their territory extends till it meets the higher ranges of the Hindoo Koosh. The Mahabun mountain, with its dense forest, lies within their boundary, and the whole tract is wild and rugged in an almost inconceivable degree. Though the Jadoons accompanied the Yoosufzyes when they descended from Kabool in the fifteenth century, and conquered and occupied the valley of Peshawaur, they claim to have an independent origin, and are separate from the Yoosufzyes. The Jadoons have spread into the neighbouring district of Hazara, and now form one of the strongest tribes of that province, occupying the central portion; their villages lying from 1,500 to 6,000 feet above the plains of the Indus. The Jadoons are a fair complexioned tribe, many of them having brown hair and beards, and ruddy colour, with grey or hazel eyes, and they are, for the most part, fair, with strong, athletic forms, extremely active, and capable of enduring great exertion and fatigue."
Another reference from:
Notes on the Eusofzye tribes of Afghanistan By The Late Capt. Edward Connolly (published after his death in the First Afghan War, in the Asiatic Journal and Monthly Register for the British and Foreign India, China, and Australasia. Vol.XXXV-New Series, May-August, 1841.):
"The Judoons are related to the Kaukar Affghan tribe (i.e. come from Parni, brother of Kakar - MY NOTE) and migrated to these parts, perhaps two or three centuries ago (time of writing: approx. 1838) and are divided into two great branches, Salar and Munsoor of whom the first are settled to the east of Punjtar, and the rest in Drumtour. The Salars are said to have 64 villages, and to muster 6000 matchlocks; their government is a democracy, more rigid than that even of the Euosafzyes. I was nearly causing a quarrel at Grenduf, their chief town, by inadvertently asking who was their head Mullick. We were much struck by the appearance of wealth and comfort in their villages, which are large and populous and the Hindoos seemed to be more numerous and thriving amongst them, than in any other part of the country we visited."
....and another reference: Hillary Rose in "A glossary of the tribes and castes of the north west frontier provinces and the protected territories of the north west frontier provinces, Vol. II (A to K)published 1919, Lawrence Rd, Delhi, writes:
"The Jaduns occupy all of the southeastern portion of the territory between the Peshawar and Hazara borders, and southern slopes of Mahaban, having taken their present lands in the eastern Sama after the Jaduns and various Kashi chiefs of the Afghans had defeated the Dilazaks, and when Jahangir finally crushed the Dilazaks, they spread up the Dor valley as high as Abbottabad. Early in the 18th Century, on the expulsion of the Karlugh Turks by Saiyed Jalal Baba they appropriated the country about Dhamtaur; and about hundred years later they took the Bagra tract from the remaining few Dilazaks who held it, while shortly before the Sikhs took the country their Hassanzai clan deprived the Karral of a portion of the Nilan valley".
I could go on giving you references all night, but I think my point has been made.
So again if you look at the literature it's OLAF CAROE who calls them Hamsayas - the original documents mentioning them don't SPECIFICALLY call them Hamsayas - but ALLIES. Big difference!
In fact, by going to Hazara, which is largely a non-Pakhto speaking area, the Jadoons further preserved their "Pashto pronounced" name. The first letter of "Jadoon" is spelt with a unique Pashto letter which is like the arabic "rey" but has a dot above and a dot below. In Southern (Qandahar/Helmand) Pashto this letter is pronounced as "J" and in Northern (Kabul/Peshawar) Pakhto it is pronounced as "G". Hence "Jadoon" in Pashto and "Gadoon" in Pakhto. This further supports the account that Jadoons migrated from southern Afghanistan. Write "Jadoon" with this unique Pashto letter in the beginning instead of "Jeem" or "Gaaf" and show it to any Pashtoon from Qandahar and he will pronounce it as "Jadoon"!
No Jadoon calls himself Gadoon.
Let me give you another analogy: Consider the "Bangash Pakhtoon Clan." When you write "Bangash" you use the unique Pakhto "Kheen" which in Pashto is pronounced "Sheen" (It's like the Arabic "seen" but has a dot above and below). So if I speak Pakhto I will say "Bangakh" and if I tell an Englishmen that my Pakhtoon Clan is "Bangakh" he will always call me "Bangakh" because he does not know Pashto and so is unaware of the word changes in the language.
I hope this information helps.

But Sughara bahan got angry and replied to adil khan jadoon as

Judged on the first couple of paragraphs that I have read in your REPLY, I came to the conclusion that it is not my worthwhile to go through the rest of your pages which I believe bear no credibility. Some of the reasons apply;
1) Repudiating the praise worthy research work of an exemplary historians like Olaf Caroe and a great living anthropologist like Dr. hab is a clear evidence of ‘YOU’ being misled by the rigidity of the primitive and antique un-enlightened minds.2) You have no idea of the criterion of the word “nationality”. Factually almost 45% of Afghan population is Pakhtuns in Afghanistan. Segmenting the entire population of a Sovereign State into groups and labeling only the minorities as ‘Afghan’ leaves no doubt about your poor knowledge, mind set and low literacy level which is so incompatible to the present modern world. 3) If you do not have the guts to take the critique then do not be open to discussion. All enlightened and educated know very well how and where to express their views.
On the above grounds it leaves no room for the enlightened to carry on any further discussion especially with you. I only respect people of knowledge, who are rational, enlightened and exhibit the protocol of communication. Unfortunately you have proven your ignorance repeatedly and beyond doubt and therefore you deserve no credibility from now on. 23:25, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Now Adil khan jadoon reply

The saying, “Some minds are like concrete, all mixed up and permanently set!” holds true for your way of thinking, as does the Pashto proverb, "Putting books on a donkey doesn't make it intelligent."
You asked for references and I gave them to you. If you don’t read them, it explains to everyone why you made ignorant comments in the first place. That’s your own undoing.
In fact I went to the original documents – like a serious researcher - unlike yourself whose basing your views on secondary and tertiary information that gets interpreted differently each time.
No-one can help someone who continues to disagree with the primary source, yet agrees with the secondary and tertiary sources. Speaks poorly of your research method. You obviously have your own agenda.
Serious researchers do what I do – amateurs do what you do. You’re not as “flexible in your views” as you say you are and are the one who can’t take the critique as is proven in your response.
The good thing is as a result of your inquiry, the INACCURACIES of Olaf Caroes’ book regarding the Jadoons are there for everyone to see – and the ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS correcting his assumptions are there for everyone to read!

Tahir khan jadoon reply to Sughara madam

Dear Sughra Mughal:
I have read your original comments on the Jadoon tribe and then the comments made by Adil Khan. It is clear that he has taken information from several respectable sources and he has taken the time to fully quote these in his response to you. However your response to him was very unreasonable and rude. You say in your reply to Adil Khan:
“On the above grounds it leaves no room for the enlightened to carry on any further discussion especially with you. I only respect people of knowledge, who are rational, enlightened and exhibit the protocol of communication”.
If Adil Khan is not knowledgeable, I certainly donot feel that you have the knowledge to be commenting in an authoritative way on the Jadoon tribe. It is clear for our readers to see who is more knowledgeable and correct on this subject.

A Europian Historian Joseph Conor England replied to Sughara jee

The Prosecutor whoever you are! I would like to draw attention of the readers to two main flaws in your case, not scholarly but ethical. You Criticised Jadoons, ok, Mr Adnan Khan Jadoon being a jadoon directly shot didnt mind at all but cleared your mind according to your wishes mentioned above that u like good critique. Then why did you mind and offend him being not directly targeted, its not understading inspite he gave references i also read which are true. Second if he proved your references wrong and partly, then u may explain them again wholy or may provide more references in prosecution but you didnt at all desspite being rude and offending. I am an Historian, a europian and doing my Postdoc research about Afghan Origins now in islamabad, and according to all my 10 years study and knowledge you are wrong/poor in your prosecution, your clearance and your ethics as well. You have no right to criticise or to provide false material on any clain, tribe or origin.

Another jadoon sohail khan jadoon add comments

mr sughra who ever u are you don't know whenever you going to say something about critical matters like Tribes,clan so think about it hundard times before say something and approach with the right material my brother Adil Khan Jadoon explined it very well with the solid proof of diffrent historions refrences i would like to say that you don't have small right to destroy and presents the wrong history of 'THE GREAT JADOON TRIBE' mind it

Monday, January 12, 2009

Jewish Vz. Muslims Two Views

These are two views on same subject from two different peoples

Some thoughts:
Extracts of speech by Hafez A.B Mohamed:
Director-General, Al Baraka Bank, South Africa


o World Jewish Population : 14 million
o Distribution : 7m in America
: 5m in Asia
: 2m in Europe
: 100 thousand in Africa

o World Muslim Population: 1.5 billion
o Distribution: I billion in Asia/Mid-East
400 M in Africa
44 M in Europe
6 M in the Americas

o Every fifth human being is a Muslim.
o For every single Hindu there are two Muslims
o For every Buddhist there are two Muslims
o For every Jew there are 107 Muslims
o Yet the 14 million Jews are more powerful than the entire 1..5 billion Muslims


Here are some of the reasons.

Some Movers of Current History:
o Albert Einstein Jewish
o Sigmund Freud Jewish
o Karl Marx Jewish
o Paul Samuelson Jewish
o Milton Friedman Jewish

Some Medical Milestones:
o Vaccinating Needle: Benjamin Ruben Jewish
o Polio Vaccine Jonas Salk Jewish
o Leukemia Drug Gertrude Elion Jewish
o Hepatitis B Baruch Blumberg Jewish
o Syphilis Drug Paul Ehrlich Jewish
o Neuro muscular Elie Metchnikoff Jewish
o Endocrinology Andrew Schally Jewish
o Cognitive therapy. Aaron Beck Jewish
o Contraceptive Pill Gregory Pincus Jewish
o Understanding of Human Eye G. Wald Jewish
o Embryology. Stanley Cohen Jewish
o Kidney Dialysis Willem Kloffcame Jewish

Nobel Prize Winners:
o In the
past 105 years, 14 million Jews have won 180 Nobel prizes
whilst 1.5 billion Muslims have contributed only 3 Nobel winners

Some Inventions that changed History:
o Micro- Processing Chip. Stanley Mezor Jewish
o Nuclear Chain Reactor Leo Sziland Jewish
o Optical Fibre Cable Peter Schultz Jewish
o Traffic Lights Charles Adler Jewish
o Stainless Steel Benno Strauss Jewish
o Sound Movies Isador Kisee Jewish
o Telephone Microphone Emile Berliner Jewish
o Video Tape Recorder Charles Ginsburg Jewish

Some Influential Global Business People:
o Polo Ralph Lauren Jewish
o Coca Cola Jewish
o Levi's Jeans Levi Strauss Jewish
o Starbuck's Howard Schultz Jewish
o Google Sergey Brin Jewish
o Dell Computers Michael Dell Jewish
o Oracle Larry Ellison Jewish
o DKNY Donna Karan Jewish
o Baskin & Robbins Irv Robbins Jewish
o Dunkin Donuts Bill Rosenberg Jewish

Some Influential Intellectuals/Politicians:
o Henry Kissinger, US Sec of State Jewish
o Richard Levin, President Yale University Jewish
o Alan Greenspan, US Federal Reserve Jewish
o Joseph Lieberman Jewish
o Madeleine Albright, US Sec of State Jewish
o Casper Weinberger, US Sec of Defense Jewish
o Maxim Litvinov, USSR Foreign Minister Jewish
o David Marshal, Singapore Chief Minister Jewish
o Isaacs Isaacs, Gov-Gen Australia Jewish
o Benjamin Disraeli, British Statesman Jewish
o Yevgeny Primakov, Russian PM Jewish
o Barry Goldwater, US Politician Jewish
o Jorge Sampaio, President Portugal Jewish
o Herb Gray, Canadian Deputy - PM Jewish
o Pierre Mendes, French PM Jewish
o Michael Howard, British Home Sec. Jewish
o Bruno Kriesky, Austrian Chancellor Jewish
o Robert Rubin, US Sec of Treasury Jewish

Global Media Influential People:
o Wolf Blitzer, CNN Jewish
o Barbara Walters ABC News Jewish
o Eugene Meyer , Washington Post Jewish
o Henry Grunwald, Time Magazine Jewish
o Katherine Graham , Washington Post Jewish
o Joseph Lelyeld, New York Times Jewish
o Max Frankel, New York Times Jewish

Some Global Philanthropists:
o George Soros Jewish
o Walter Annenberg Jewish

Why are they powerful?

Why are Muslims powerless?

Here's one reason. We have lost the capacity to produce knowledge.

o In the entire Muslim World (57 Muslim Countries) there are only 500 universities.
o In USA alone, 5,758 universities.
o In India alone, 8,407 universities.
ONLY ONE university in the entire Islamic World features in the Top 500 Ranking Universities of the World.
o Literacy in the Christian World 90%.
o Literacy in the Muslim World 40%.
o 15 Christian majority-countries, literacy rate 100%.
o Muslim majority - countries , None.
o 98% in Christian countries completed primary school.
o Only 50% in Muslim countries completed primary school.
o 40% in Christian countries attended university.
o In Muslim countries a dismal 2% attended.
o Muslim majority countries have 230 scientists per one million Muslims.
o The USA has 5000 per million.
o The Christian world 1000 technicians per million.
o Entire Arab World only 50 technicians per million.
o Muslim World spends on research/development 0.2% of GDP.
o Christian World spends 5 % of GDP.

A Conclusion.

o The Muslim World lacks the capacity to produce knowledge.

Another way of testing the degree of knowledge is the degree of diffusing knowledge.

o Pakistan 23 daily newspapers per 1000 citizens.
o Singapore 460 per 1000 citizens.
o In UK book titles per million is 2000.
o In Egypt book titles per million is only 17.

A Conclusion.

o The Muslim World is failing to diffuse knowledge.

Applying Knowledge is another such test.

o Exports of high tech products from Pakistan is 0.9% of its exports.
o In Saudi Arabia is 0.2%
o Kuwait, Morocco and Algeria 0.3%.
o Singapore alone is 68%.

A Conclusion:

o The Muslim World is failing to apply knowledge.

So what do YOU conclude?

No need to tell, the figures speak for themselves very loudly, if we are unable to listen.
My Advice:

Please educate yourself and your children.
Always promote education, don't compromise on it.
Don't ignore your children's slightest misguidance from education.
And please, for God's Sake, don't use your personal contacts or sources to promote your children in
their education; if they fail, let them and make them learn to pass; b/c if they can't do it now, they can't ever).

We are World's biggest and strongest nation, all we need is to identify and explore our own selves.
Our victory is with our knowledge, our creativity, our literacy...And nothing else.
Please Muslims....Wake up... It is not too late

This First View

The second one is

Salaam Alaikum,

Brother Hafez gave some interesting stats but I humbly disagree with his reasoning.

The society that Rasool Allah (saw) established in Madina was called the best ever seen by the world. The Sahaba (ra) of Rasool Allah (saw) were called the best generation ever (Allah (saw) praised them). They provided the base upon which the best and most powerful state and system the world had ever seen was established. Yet I don’t remember reading about any MIT (Madina Institute of Technology) in Madina. None of them received any worldly awards or accolades.

Now let’s look at the highly educated and powerful Jews. Despite of all there power and knowledge they are dependent upon the charity of the US and the west to survive. The tiny Jewish state is there for 60 years and rather then progressing, everyday they are getting closer to the end. May Allah (swt) save us from this type of power.

Allah (saw) said “The victory is for the believers”; the ayah does not say “the victory is for the scientists, engineers and businessmen”.

So obviously the earlier generations understood something that we are missing and that is why the victory is evading us. Allah (swt) knows the best.

May Allah (swt) allow us to see the truth.


What Is your Thinking ??????